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		<title>By: Miss Ann Thrope</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14306</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Ann Thrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I'm a good person."  That's not conceit.

Conceit is "I am a better person than you."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a good person.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not conceit.</p>
<p>Conceit is &#8220;I am a better person than you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sybil Law</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14286</link>
		<dc:creator>Sybil Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG I SO know what you're talking about! This is the difference: what you are getting out of it is happy, warm, fuzzy feelings; NOT a sense of being better than other people because they don't do the same. I have a father-in-law who does things for people all the time - but he never lets them forget about it and will remind them every time he sees them what he's done. He does it for slefish reasons, and because he likes to feel like the "hero". He only steps in to help when it makes him feel like he's saving someone - but if it's small and menial, you won't hear from him.
Anyway, (sorry I ramble so), you are a good person who does nice things to be nice and also because it makes you feel good and makes you want to continue doing nice things.
There is always a "payback", but in your case, it is just and sincere.
Anyway, you rock.
My whole thing made no sense, did it?!  :laughs:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG I SO know what you&#8217;re talking about! This is the difference: what you are getting out of it is happy, warm, fuzzy feelings; NOT a sense of being better than other people because they don&#8217;t do the same. I have a father-in-law who does things for people all the time - but he never lets them forget about it and will remind them every time he sees them what he&#8217;s done. He does it for slefish reasons, and because he likes to feel like the &#8220;hero&#8221;. He only steps in to help when it makes him feel like he&#8217;s saving someone - but if it&#8217;s small and menial, you won&#8217;t hear from him.<br />
Anyway, (sorry I ramble so), you are a good person who does nice things to be nice and also because it makes you feel good and makes you want to continue doing nice things.<br />
There is always a &#8220;payback&#8221;, but in your case, it is just and sincere.<br />
Anyway, you rock.<br />
My whole thing made no sense, did it?!  <img src='http://poppycede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_laugh.gif' alt=':laughs:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Absurdist</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14284</link>
		<dc:creator>The Absurdist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is kinda cyclical, but there is nothing wrong with being kind and doing things for others because you get a warm and fuzzy out of it. The bottom line is, as long as you are not overextending yourself, the other person has still benefited from your helping them, and that is the end result.

We all get a warm and fuzzy for helping others.  This is appropriate and acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is kinda cyclical, but there is nothing wrong with being kind and doing things for others because you get a warm and fuzzy out of it. The bottom line is, as long as you are not overextending yourself, the other person has still benefited from your helping them, and that is the end result.</p>
<p>We all get a warm and fuzzy for helping others.  This is appropriate and acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Poppy Cede</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14275</link>
		<dc:creator>Poppy Cede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Creature,&lt;/b&gt; when I read your comments it's in email so I don't see the eye staring.  This is a really good point.  I just think there are other societies where the people have a better control over experiencing pride for their personal accomplishments.  I'm on the journey, but am not where I want to be in terms of having pride in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Creature,</b> when I read your comments it&#8217;s in email so I don&#8217;t see the eye staring.  This is a really good point.  I just think there are other societies where the people have a better control over experiencing pride for their personal accomplishments.  I&#8217;m on the journey, but am not where I want to be in terms of having pride in my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Creature SH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creature SH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: My avatar picture somehow makes this sound angry. Imagine a gentle tone of voice, okaypleasethanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: My avatar picture somehow makes this sound angry. Imagine a gentle tone of voice, okaypleasethanx.</p>
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		<title>By: Creature SH</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14273</link>
		<dc:creator>Creature SH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that maybe, I should expand this... Please forgive me if it's not welcome.

Look in the mirror. Do you have two arms ? Hands ? Eyes, a nose, hair ? Is that a heart beating in your chest ? 

And can you change that ? Of course you can't. 
You're &lt;b&gt;human&lt;/b&gt;. 

And you can't change how your brain works, either. The human mind (and pretty much that of every other conscious being) works in a very particular way. It always seeks gratification. &lt;i&gt;Everything&lt;/i&gt; we do is making us feel better on some level. Because that's the only reason we do it. We're always compelled to trigger that "reward" center inside our head. The thing that makes us feel good. No intentions could ever be fully selfless, because then, there wouldn't be any intentions.

But of course we are also self-aware. We know what we are doing, don't we ? And you consciously choose the rewarding feeling of being nice to others over far easier, uncompromised self-gratification.  And you know what &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that maybe, I should expand this&#8230; Please forgive me if it&#8217;s not welcome.</p>
<p>Look in the mirror. Do you have two arms ? Hands ? Eyes, a nose, hair ? Is that a heart beating in your chest ? </p>
<p>And can you change that ? Of course you can&#8217;t.<br />
You&#8217;re <b>human</b>. </p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t change how your brain works, either. The human mind (and pretty much that of every other conscious being) works in a very particular way. It always seeks gratification. <i>Everything</i> we do is making us feel better on some level. Because that&#8217;s the only reason we do it. We&#8217;re always compelled to trigger that &#8220;reward&#8221; center inside our head. The thing that makes us feel good. No intentions could ever be fully selfless, because then, there wouldn&#8217;t be any intentions.</p>
<p>But of course we are also self-aware. We know what we are doing, don&#8217;t we ? And you consciously choose the rewarding feeling of being nice to others over far easier, uncompromised self-gratification.  And you know what <b>that</b> means.</p>
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		<title>By: Poppy Cede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poppy Cede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - Thanks for listening, everyone.  I genuinely appreciate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS - Thanks for listening, everyone.  I genuinely appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can blame my mom for the guilt...I do.  She's the queen of guilt, &#38; admits it herself.   :love: 

In all seriousness...you're an awesome person.  HEAD UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can blame my mom for the guilt&#8230;I do.  She&#8217;s the queen of guilt, &amp; admits it herself.   <img src='http://poppycede.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_heart.gif' alt=':love:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In all seriousness&#8230;you&#8217;re an awesome person.  HEAD UP!</p>
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		<title>By: Poppy Cede</title>
		<link>http://poppycede.com/2008/02/20/conflicted-unresolution/comment-page-1/#comment-14270</link>
		<dc:creator>Poppy Cede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Everyone,&lt;/b&gt; thanks.  I'll go through and address each, but just one blanket statement:

I blogged about being a good person.  I told the entire world I am good.  Therefore, in my mind, I committed a conceited action.  It's not what I was trying to accomplish, I was trying to address my crisis of conscience by asking for your opinion, but in asking your opinion I actually did exactly the thing that makes me feel shameful about doing good things -- I bragged that I do good things.  I understand there's no way for me to tell you I have these feelings without telling you I do good things, but it does not make me feel better to receive such praise after I boasted.  And please understand, I'm not telling you this so you'll argue this point with me, because you arguing this point with me actually makes me feel even more conceited about my &lt;b&gt;self-proclaimed goodness&lt;/b&gt;, I'm just letting you know how I tick... 

(When the hell did I allow guilt back into my life?  Nice.)

&lt;b&gt;Britt,&lt;/b&gt; I don't disagree with you, but it still feels ... I dunno, shameful to acknowledge that I am a nice and good person who just wants to do good for people.  This is something I randomly struggle with, and of course I had a test of this struggle today which triggered my conflict again.  I haven't figured out how I am going to accept the no-win situation yet.

&lt;b&gt;Creature,&lt;/b&gt; I would rather just not feel proud of my generosity. 

&lt;b&gt;Kyra,&lt;/b&gt; I am not nice to others so that they will be kind to me in return.  I expect civility from others, but when people do kind things for me personally, with specific intention, it genuinely surprises me.  

&lt;b&gt;Tug,&lt;/b&gt; you have no idea how relieved I am that we are sharing this experience.  It shaves off about 10% of the guilt for being conceited enough to think it in the first place.  (WHO PUT GUILT INSIDE ME?!  GDSOB, so gonna kick someone's ass.)

&lt;b&gt;Dawg,&lt;/b&gt; ... I like that word, "recognizing" because there is no good or bad, just neutral.  As for being Magneto... we really need to get you to the movie theater to see Iron Man, don't we...

&lt;b&gt;Sour,&lt;/b&gt; the only pride that is acceptable to my belief system is pride in others.  Pride in myself is... well, it just doesn't sit right.  Pride and confidence are not equal.  I am ok with confident in my abilities.  It's just being proud of them that... ugh.

&lt;b&gt;SH,&lt;/b&gt; exactly!  See... Phoebe truly is selfless!  And made up.

&lt;b&gt;Chicka,&lt;/b&gt; an event today triggered it, and in fact the biggest trigger for it is that I &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; blogged about it and then I had a moment of clarity and realized that by blogging it I would be boasting.  

Clearly I just need to get over this.  But... hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Everyone,</b> thanks.  I&#8217;ll go through and address each, but just one blanket statement:</p>
<p>I blogged about being a good person.  I told the entire world I am good.  Therefore, in my mind, I committed a conceited action.  It&#8217;s not what I was trying to accomplish, I was trying to address my crisis of conscience by asking for your opinion, but in asking your opinion I actually did exactly the thing that makes me feel shameful about doing good things &#8212; I bragged that I do good things.  I understand there&#8217;s no way for me to tell you I have these feelings without telling you I do good things, but it does not make me feel better to receive such praise after I boasted.  And please understand, I&#8217;m not telling you this so you&#8217;ll argue this point with me, because you arguing this point with me actually makes me feel even more conceited about my <b>self-proclaimed goodness</b>, I&#8217;m just letting you know how I tick&#8230; </p>
<p>(When the hell did I allow guilt back into my life?  Nice.)</p>
<p><b>Britt,</b> I don&#8217;t disagree with you, but it still feels &#8230; I dunno, shameful to acknowledge that I am a nice and good person who just wants to do good for people.  This is something I randomly struggle with, and of course I had a test of this struggle today which triggered my conflict again.  I haven&#8217;t figured out how I am going to accept the no-win situation yet.</p>
<p><b>Creature,</b> I would rather just not feel proud of my generosity. </p>
<p><b>Kyra,</b> I am not nice to others so that they will be kind to me in return.  I expect civility from others, but when people do kind things for me personally, with specific intention, it genuinely surprises me.  </p>
<p><b>Tug,</b> you have no idea how relieved I am that we are sharing this experience.  It shaves off about 10% of the guilt for being conceited enough to think it in the first place.  (WHO PUT GUILT INSIDE ME?!  GDSOB, so gonna kick someone&#8217;s ass.)</p>
<p><b>Dawg,</b> &#8230; I like that word, &#8220;recognizing&#8221; because there is no good or bad, just neutral.  As for being Magneto&#8230; we really need to get you to the movie theater to see Iron Man, don&#8217;t we&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Sour,</b> the only pride that is acceptable to my belief system is pride in others.  Pride in myself is&#8230; well, it just doesn&#8217;t sit right.  Pride and confidence are not equal.  I am ok with confident in my abilities.  It&#8217;s just being proud of them that&#8230; ugh.</p>
<p><b>SH,</b> exactly!  See&#8230; Phoebe truly is selfless!  And made up.</p>
<p><b>Chicka,</b> an event today triggered it, and in fact the biggest trigger for it is that I <i>almost</i> blogged about it and then I had a moment of clarity and realized that by blogging it I would be boasting.  </p>
<p>Clearly I just need to get over this.  But&#8230; hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicka Nuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicka Nuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conceited is when you have to shout it to the world that you are great.  Conceited earns a damn good smackdown.  If people don't do it to the conceited, then life surely will.  It's called "Karma's a bitch." 

Humble is doing good stuff and still doing the good stuff whether you're recognized for it or not. 

We all like a pat on the back, but actively seeking out recognition is the poop on the lawn of a good deed. It's almost like you didn't do the goodness at all then.   

Why the doubt?  We lubs ya.

P.S. There's a fine line between "Hey, I did this nifty thing - check it out" to inspire others and the "it's all about meeeeee"...KWIM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conceited is when you have to shout it to the world that you are great.  Conceited earns a damn good smackdown.  If people don&#8217;t do it to the conceited, then life surely will.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;Karma&#8217;s a bitch.&#8221; </p>
<p>Humble is doing good stuff and still doing the good stuff whether you&#8217;re recognized for it or not. </p>
<p>We all like a pat on the back, but actively seeking out recognition is the poop on the lawn of a good deed. It&#8217;s almost like you didn&#8217;t do the goodness at all then.   </p>
<p>Why the doubt?  We lubs ya.</p>
<p>P.S. There&#8217;s a fine line between &#8220;Hey, I did this nifty thing - check it out&#8221; to inspire others and the &#8220;it&#8217;s all about meeeeee&#8221;&#8230;KWIM?</p>
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